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3 months ago
Ben F
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Oil prices have reached an all time high today after UN and US imposed sanctions on exported oil from Iran. Iran are enriching Uranium to make nuclear weapons, they have denied its for the use of nuclear weapons and say its for nuclear energy and research and development which I find very hard to believe.

 

UN and US imposed these sanction to minimise the revenue generated from oil sales, thus reducing funds to enrich uranium. Iran has closed the straight of Hormuz in which 20% of all oil is transported to the west. Now Iran has boosted protection of nuclear sites by testing and firing misciles throughout the gulf. Iran have now cut off all oil supply to UK and France.

 

What is you opinion on this? Its interesting to see the strategies used by both US and Iran to overcome these problems. Iran are in a far better position with the IAEA turning a blind eye to the enrichment process. This could spell WWIII. Israel already have nuclear weapons but have not signed the treaty. My guess would be that Iran will nuclear bomb Israel within the next 3-5 years.

 

Now the president of Iran said that a ban of oil supply to Spain, Greece, Italy, Portugal, Germany and Netherlands.

 

Take a look a the link and leave a comment. Please refrain from meaningless comments and stick to the topic please.

Check out the link here

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i knew things were going tits up, i just knew it

(serious response coming soon wink)
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Take a look a the link and leave a comment. Please refrain from meaningless comments and stick to the topic please.

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3 months ago
Megamind
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So who gives the right to one country to own nuclear weapons and enrich uranium and not to another?

Honestly, I dont want to hear argument "We will not use it." Im sure everybody remembers Hiroshima and Nagasaki and if WW3 came along those weapons would be used again.
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this stuff is inevitable in the face of finite resources and global capitalism (IMO) but i can't see the israelis standing for it for very long - to the point where they could well strike hard and pre-emptively
3 months ago
Ben F
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So who gives the right to one country to own nuclear weapons and enrich uranium and not to another?

Honestly, I dont want to hear argument "We will not use it." Im sure everybody remembers Hiroshima and Nagasaki and if WW3 came along those weapons would be used again.

Doesn't Israel have a nuclear bomb?

Yes. Israel, however, is not a party to the NPT, so is not obliged to report to it. Neither are India or Pakistan, both of which have developed nuclear weapons. North Korea has left the treaty and has announced that it has acquired a nuclear weapons capacity.

On 18 September 2009, the IAEA called on Israel to join the NPT and open its nuclear facilities to inspection. The resolution said that the IAEA "expresses concern about the Israeli nuclear capabilities, and calls upon Israel to accede to the NPT and place all its nuclear facilities under comprehensive IAEA safeguards... "

Israel refuses to join the NPT or allow inspections. It is reckoned to have up to 400 warheads but refuses to confirm or deny this.

3 months ago
LoadedDice
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"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the state can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie ... The truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the state." --Joseph Goebbels, minister of propaganda in Nazi Germany, 1933-1945

dont get your "news" from the bbc, its not news,
start here:

The Mega-Lie Called the "War on Terror": A Masterpiece of Propaganda

and this:

The Globalization of War: The "Military Roadmap" to World War III

also:

The Bush Administration's Top 40 Lies about War and Terrorism


i suspect if you actually are from Syria, then you are well aware of these FACTS,



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So who gives the right to one country to own nuclear weapons and enrich uranium and not to another?

Honestly, I dont want to hear argument "We will not use it." Im sure everybody remembers Hiroshima and Nagasaki and if WW3 came along those weapons would be used again.

Doesn't Israel have a nuclear bomb?

Yes. Israel, however, is not a party to the NPT, so is not obliged to report to it. Neither are India or Pakistan, both of which have developed nuclear weapons. North Korea has left the treaty and has announced that it has acquired a nuclear weapons capacity.

On 18 September 2009, the IAEA called on Israel to join the NPT and open its nuclear facilities to inspection. The resolution said that the IAEA "expresses concern about the Israeli nuclear capabilities, and calls upon Israel to accede to the NPT and place all its nuclear facilities under comprehensive IAEA safeguards... "

Israel refuses to join the NPT or allow inspections. It is reckoned to have up to 400 warheads but refuses to confirm or deny this.



which is kinda worrying and leaves the israelis on shaky ethical ground (that is what the western media babbles on about the other non NPT countries mentioned there isn't it?) doesn't it? just playing devils advocate here. i'm not sure how well the concept of mutual destruction holds up nowadays - is it enough to keep hands off the switch? i can see pros and cons to both sides here.
3 months ago
Ben F
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"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the state can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie ... The truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the state." --Joseph Goebbels, minister of propaganda in Nazi Germany, 1933-1945

dont get your "news" from the bbc, its not news,
start here:

The Mega-Lie Called the "War on Terror": A Masterpiece of Propaganda

and this:

The Globalization of War: The "Military Roadmap" to World War III

also:

The Bush Administration's Top 40 Lies about War and Terrorism


i suspect if you actually are from Syria, then you are well aware of these FACTS,




What makes you believe that a snippet from a common dreams website has true and acurate facts. I am not from Syria I just work here sometimes. I take an interest in whats happening, Im not talkig about 9/11 either I am mearly stating facts about the oil crisis in the "EU" and the strategies used against Iran to overcome Uranium enrichment facilities such as the recent sanction imposed against them. Off topic.

 

 

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What makes you believe that a snippet from a common dreams website has true and acurate facts. I am not from Syria I just work here sometimes. I take an interest in whats happening, Im not talkig about 9/11 either I am mearly stating facts about the oil crisis in the "EU" and the strategies used against Iran to overcome Uranium enrichment facilities such as the recent sanction imposed against them. Off topic.

 

 

ah, misunderstood the angle then. i'll get back to the drawing board in the morning. knackered yawn (yawn not a laugh)
3 months ago
Ben F
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So who gives the right to one country to own nuclear weapons and enrich uranium and not to another?

Honestly, I dont want to hear argument "We will not use it." Im sure everybody remembers Hiroshima and Nagasaki and if WW3 came along those weapons would be used again.

Doesn't Israel have a nuclear bomb?

Yes. Israel, however, is not a party to the NPT, so is not obliged to report to it. Neither are India or Pakistan, both of which have developed nuclear weapons. North Korea has left the treaty and has announced that it has acquired a nuclear weapons capacity.

On 18 September 2009, the IAEA called on Israel to join the NPT and open its nuclear facilities to inspection. The resolution said that the IAEA "expresses concern about the Israeli nuclear capabilities, and calls upon Israel to accede to the NPT and place all its nuclear facilities under comprehensive IAEA safeguards... "

Israel refuses to join the NPT or allow inspections. It is reckoned to have up to 400 warheads but refuses to confirm or deny this.



which is kinda worrying and leaves the israelis on shaky ethical ground (that is what the western media babbles on about the other non NPT countries mentioned there isn't it?) doesn't it? just playing devils advocate here. i'm not sure how well the concept of mutual destruction holds up nowadays - is it enough to keep hands off the switch? i can see pros and cons to both sides here.


I agree with that, I think the other countries not part of the NTP have warheads only for protection and do not pose any threat to other, especially western, countries.

 

Iran because they are the fifth largest oil supplier in the world will use the nuclear weapons, to an advantage and use it as a bargaining tool as well as bullying other countries to get what they want.

 

3 months ago
LoadedDice
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my post may appear off topic but it certainly is not, if you follow the links and read the declassified material contained, (actual pdfs) you will see the plans for Iran long before 9/11; which was precursor to all of this. Iran is in fact just a "snippet" of a much bigger picture.
yes believing one site over another is paradoxical, I did say it is a place to start only. These links give a overview only and need to be considered to make an informed decision about the state of the world that we live in.
3 months ago
Ben F
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my post may appear off topic but it certainly is not, if you follow the links and read the declassified material contained, (actual pdfs) you will see the plans for Iran long before 9/11; which was precursor to all of this. Iran is in fact just a "snippet" of a much bigger picture.
yes believing one site over another is paradoxical, I did say it is a place to start only. These links give a overview only and need to be considered to make an informed decision about the state of the world that we live in.


I have read the articles on the deception of the US that I already knew and understood 10 years ago. I am saying the links you posted are off topic in relation to the thread title.

 

I dont disagree, however, your comments on the plans for Iran long before 9/11, now that would be an interesting topic to discuss and would have no problem discussing it with you.

 

Yes totally agreed on the state of the world we live in, it is a "sorry state"

3 months ago
LoadedDice
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my apologies, i thought i was talking to someone who still believes "terrorism" is about democracy and safety and not about raw materials.
I will dig up said papers/links etc.. 
At the min i only have Iran plans dated 2005 on my hard drive. Ill dig this up for you (and earlier papers) after work. 8 am here.
to make a long story short: irans non existent nuclear program is just a carbon copy of Iraqs WMD's. it is another lie
3 months ago
Equinox
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Nuclear weapons are archaic. They exist but, making land useless. Some oddball loose cannon will no doubt attempt to use one but, you can bet they'll be bombarded with biological warfare.  NORAD was decommissioned a few years back which would indicate a lesser threat of nuclear warheads, or would it? 
3 months ago
Ben F
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Nuclear weapons are archaic. They exist but, making land useless. Some oddball loose cannon will no doubt attempt to use one but, you can bet they'll be bombarded with biological warfare.  NORAD was decommissioned a few years back which would indicate a lesser threat of nuclear warheads, or would it? 


I dont think it was decommissioned, i think it was commissioned in 2006 therefore this would indicate a lesser threat, however thats for N.America and Canada only.

The threat of nuclear warfare in Europe and Israel is still prominent.

 

Maybe i'm incorrect on the decommissioning, I wasnt aware it was decommissioned.

3 months ago
Ben F
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I do like the phrase archaic,
3 months ago
Ben F
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my apologies, i thought i was talking to someone who still believes "terrorism" is about democracy and safety and not about raw materials.
I will dig up said papers/links etc.. 
At the min i only have Iran plans dated 2005 on my hard drive. Ill dig this up for you (and earlier papers) after work. 8 am here.
to make a long story short: irans non existent nuclear program is just a carbon copy of Iraqs WMD's. it is another lie


 

That will be an interesting read. I find it hard to believe its a lie when four Iran scientists that are working at the Uranium Enrichment plant have been killed in the last two years. Killed by magnetic bombs attached to their cars, these are facts.

 

Whats suprising is the US have denied involvement in these attacks, Israel perhaps?

3 months ago
Equinox
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It's the uncertainty of a madman with the power to unleash one that's the most unsettling, what the retaliation would be and how thought out. I know during the 80's there was always this underlying dark cloud of WWIII just happening. Maybe it was a combination of things but, it definitely felt like someone could just start it, actually quite chilling at times. 

I don't know if this is any different, it just seems that the counter attack if any would be something other than nuclear.   

   
3 months ago
Equinox
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This film scared me shitless 
3 months ago
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Nuclear weapons are archaic. They exist but, making land useless. Some oddball loose cannon will no doubt attempt to use one but, you can bet they'll be bombarded with biological warfare.  NORAD was decommissioned a few years back which would indicate a lesser threat of nuclear warheads, or would it? 
I can see it from my house. wink Literally. Cheyenne mountain is about 5 miles away and Peterson AFB is about 8.  Its still active but its not on the same alert system as it was during the 80s. Id say at least 50% of the old stand by silos have been shut down and that's nation wide. 
3 months ago
Dr Walter Bishop
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just send in special forces and wack all the people in charge, fuck it. thumbsup

 

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will obviously have billions of £ worth of underground hide aways, food, equipment, Enough for his entire lifetime from the nuclear fallout so he wont give a shit, As long as he and his top aides are ok he use nuclear warfare. Same with all the other top crazy leaders. It's us the general public that are at risk. thumbsdown

3 months ago
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I wonder if he has an armoured dinner jacket.
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Norris
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laughing

 

Loaded Dice = thumbsup

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Nuclear weapons are archaic. They exist but, making land useless. Some oddball loose cannon will no doubt attempt to use one but, you can bet they'll be bombarded with biological warfare.  NORAD was decommissioned a few years back which would indicate a lesser threat of nuclear warheads, or would it? 


I dont think it was decommissioned, i think it was commissioned in 2006 therefore this would indicate a lesser threat, however thats for N.America and Canada only.

The threat of nuclear warfare in Europe and Israel is still prominent.

 

Maybe i'm incorrect on the decommissioning, I wasnt aware it was decommissioned.

it would be interesting to know for sure how many countries have the knowledge and capability of making the neutron bomb (or would that still render any land useless for generations?)

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my apologies, i thought i was talking to someone who still believes "terrorism" is about democracy and safety and not about raw materials.
I will dig up said papers/links etc.. 
At the min i only have Iran plans dated 2005 on my hard drive. Ill dig this up for you (and earlier papers) after work. 8 am here.
to make a long story short: irans non existent nuclear program is just a carbon copy of Iraqs WMD's. it is another lie


 

That will be an interesting read. I find it hard to believe its a lie when four Iran scientists that are working at the Uranium Enrichment plant have been killed in the last two years. Killed by magnetic bombs attached to their cars, these are facts.

 

Whats suprising is the US have denied involvement in these attacks, Israel perhaps?

i don't think that necessarily means they weren't involved. there is much shady stuff that governments in the west cannot admit to or confirm (pablo escobar anyone? it's pretty clear that went down as a special op and not the 'official story' - could be the case here) because of it's inflamatory (sp?) nature
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my knowledge of mossad is pretty small but it also sounds like stuff they'd do if the comparisons with movie style secret agent shenaigans isn't total fabrication.
3 months ago
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it would be interesting to know for sure how many countries have the knowledge and capability of making the neutron bomb (or would that still render any land useless for generations?)
Think thats ultimately the thing it does do. Where oil and land is concerned I'd doubt that would be used to obtain it but who knows. When it was Ruskies Vs the US it was who was going to obliterate the opponent with the same bombs, just wiped out. 

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3 months ago
LoadedDice
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1992
the first bush administration conceived the wars in a doc titled "draft defense planning guidelines"
this document is still classified but was leaked to the ny times
http://www.yale.edu/strattech/92dpg.html     yale university copy of ny times

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/iraq/etc/wolf.html   pbs

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2260566/US-Defense-Planning-Guidance-19921999-Leaked-NY-Times  actual leaked file excerpt

it outlines preemptive wars for prevention of rival superpowers via the control of minerals circa the middle east without the need for any ones approval, i.e ONE SUPERPOWER signed by Richard cheney, written by Paul Wolfowitz, Lewis "Scooter" Libby and Zalmay Khalilzad-all of whom would fill high-level positions in the administration of George W. Bush, nine years in the future.

this proposal was deemed absolutely crazy and was thrown out

1996
William Kristol and Robert Kagan created a neoconservative organization to advocate preemptive war and U.S. global dominion to achieve, in their words http://www.carnegieendowment.org/1996/07/01/toward-neo-reaganite-foreign-policy/jwg
a "benevolent global hegemony." It was called the Project for the New American Century, quickly abbreviated as PNAC. Among the founding members were Richard Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Zalmay Khalilzad, Donald Rumsfeld and Jeb Bush.

again this was thrown out as "no less crazy than the first"

2000
PNAC produced yet another proposal for U.S. world dominion, preemptive war and the invasion of Iraq. It was a document called "Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces, and Resources For a New Century" PDF -> http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf
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|"over time Iran may well prove as large a threat to U.S|
|interests in the gulf as Iraq has."                                   |
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Weeks later, in January of 2001, 29 members of the Project for the New American Century joined the administration of George W. Bush. Their ideology of world dominion and preemptive war would dominate the Bush administration's foreign and defense policies.

Within 10 days of his inauguration, President Bush convened his National Security Council. The PNAC people triumphed when the invasion of Iraq was placed at the top of the agenda for Mideast foreign policy

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please note: all three proposals were the SAME DOCUMENT rewritten to be palatable.
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2001
a top secret memo leaked to the new yorker,
http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2004/02/16/040216fa_fact?currentPage=1
outlining their (PNAC) plans for Iraqs, Lybias and Irans etc.. various mineral deposits etc... The new yorker also clearly linked these men as the proprietors of businesses that will control the vast mineral reserves, defense and engineering contracts and thus the unbelievable wealth they will directly inherit.

9/11 was 7 months away

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IRAN:
Iran has the third largest oil reserves in the middle east, but also has a very strong military which the US would lose to on the ground as the US simply have too many troops elsewhere. Irans military supplies come from Russia and China.

its a bit late now so ill compile a timeline and some key points tomorrow. but in the mean time here is an interview with Fidel Castro Ruz (2010) where he predicts the inevitable Nuclear war in Iran:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=21892

we obviously need to take his word with a grain of salt but he certainly knows what guerrilla warfare is

he also outlines Resolution 1929 (one of americas many choke holds on iran under the guise of failure to comply with previous resolutions (for which there was exactly zero evidence)

resolution 1929 strips Iran of the means to defend it self.
nothing else. belonging to the council is a choice

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1929

btw isreal was nearly forced to launch nuclear warheads at iran as early as 2006

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you all can do what you want with this info, but do at least skim it, i really would recommend:
the globalization of war - link i posted earlier, its very well researched

3 months ago
LoadedDice
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violent

Post edited by owner 2/21/2012 3:44:15 PM
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Dr Walter Bishop
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WTF.. I read that as armadillo jacket... I think i need a mars bar looking
3 months ago
Norris
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The fact is guys, whether you believe in them or not, UFO's have been disabling our Nuclear Warheads. There are countless reports by military personel that have witnessed UFO's turning up and then the military literally losing control of the warheads. Google 'ET's disabling Nuclear Warheads' and you will find plenty of information. This isnt bullshit or woo woo, this is real. If you do your research, you would surely realise that for the advancement of the human race, NUCLEAR WAR IS NO LONGER ALLOWED TO HAPPEN ON EARTH. Call me mad or doolally, I really dont care, the fact is no country will be allowed to launch Nukes against another country.

 

What Loaded Dice is saying is the truth, it has been planned for a long time, however they never thought ET's would intervene, well they have.

 

Here is just one video out of thousands about the subject. You can dismiss it all you want, it doesnt change the fact that it is happening and it is real, people need to get their heads out of the sand and realise exactly whats going on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjViIruHoMY

munted

 

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helipad
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The fact is guys, whether you believe in them or not, UFO's have been disabling our Nuclear Warheads. There are countless reports by military personel that have witnessed UFO's turning up and then the military literally losing control of the warheads. Google 'ET's disabling Nuclear Warheads' and you will find plenty of information. This isnt bullshit or woo woo, this is real. If you do your research, you would surely realise that for the advancement of the human race, NUCLEAR WAR IS NO LONGER ALLOWED TO HAPPEN ON EARTH. Call me mad or doolally, I really dont care, the fact is no country will be allowed to launch Nukes against another country.

 

What Loaded Dice is saying is the truth, it has been planned for a long time, however they never thought ET's would intervene, well they have.

 

Here is just one video out of thousands about the subject. You can dismiss it all you want, it doesnt change the fact that it is happening and it is real, people need to get their heads out of the sand and realise exactly whats going on.

http://www.youtube.'vcom/watch?v=XjViIruHoMY

munted

 

And just when you think you've heard it all!! laughing

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Norris
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The fact is guys, whether you believe in them or not, UFO's have been disabling our Nuclear Warheads. There are countless reports by military personel that have witnessed UFO's turning up and then the military literally losing control of the warheads. Google 'ET's disabling Nuclear Warheads' and you will find plenty of information. This isnt bullshit or woo woo, this is real. If you do your research, you would surely realise that for the advancement of the human race, NUCLEAR WAR IS NO LONGER ALLOWED TO HAPPEN ON EARTH. Call me mad or doolally, I really dont care, the fact is no country will be allowed to launch Nukes against another country.

 

What Loaded Dice is saying is the truth, it has been planned for a long time, however they never thought ET's would intervene, well they have.

 

Here is just one video out of thousands about the subject. You can dismiss it all you want, it doesnt change the fact that it is happening and it is real, people need to get their heads out of the sand and realise exactly whats going on.

http://www.youtube.'vcom/watch?v=XjViIruHoMY

munted

 

And just when you think you've heard it all!! laughing


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjUzeQM-U7Ebiggrinscrewu
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Norris
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watch the fucking videos.screwu
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I have watched the fucking videos mate.     Not convinced.  We always only get one or two ex nasa or military who come forward with this info,  i believe if it was true there would be more.  

 

Just watched a vid which had an "ex-nasa" guy on there.  I googled his name and it turns out he was actually a writer for Marvel Comics.  laughing

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I have watched the fucking videos mate.     Not convinced.  We always only get one or two ex nasa or military who come forward with this info,  i believe if it was true there would be more.  

 

Just watched a vid which had an "ex-nasa" guy on there.  I googled his name and it turns out he was actually a writer for Marvel Comics.  laughing


Doesnt suprise me one bit.
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there is another possible explanation (that sounds far more likely) for the shit astronauts see - G-force, stresses the body has not evolved to handle yet. have heard it posited that it activates the same areas of the brain that are firing in people having religious experiences. haha, please tell me that FACT IS wasn't serious
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Norris
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I have watched the fucking videos mate.     Not convinced.  We always only get one or two ex nasa or military who come forward with this info,  i believe if it was true there would be more.  

 

Just watched a vid which had an "ex-nasa" guy on there.  I googled his name and it turns out he was actually a writer for Marvel Comics.  laughing


Obviously some are gonna be fake, but there are literally thousands mate, most by ex air force, army or navy personel, just cos you find one that is by an 'ex marvel' employee doesnt mean they are all bullshit! when you think about it, of course you will find an ex marvel or disney or some other controlled media source getting in on the action, for the sole purpose of throwing people off the scent.

 

As ive said, ignore it, dont believe it, whatever, it doesnt change the fact that it is happening.

 

Personally I think your scared.screwu

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Norris
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there is another possible explanation (that sounds far more likely) for the shit astronauts see - G-force, stresses the body has not evolved to handle yet. have heard it posited that it activates the same areas of the brain that are firing in people having religious experiences. haha, please tell me that FACT IS wasn't serious

yawnyawnyawnyawn my my my.munted
3 months ago
helipad
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I have watched the fucking videos mate.     Not convinced.  We always only get one or two ex nasa or military who come forward with this info,  i believe if it was true there would be more.  

 

Just watched a vid which had an "ex-nasa" guy on there.  I googled his name and it turns out he was actually a writer for Marvel Comics.  laughing


Obviously some are gonna be fake, but there are literally thousands mate, most by ex air force, army or navy personel, just cos you find one that is by an 'ex marvel' mployee doesnt mean they are all bullshit! when you think about it, of course you will find an ex marvel or disney or some other controlled media source getting in on the action, for the sole purpose of throwing people off the scent.

 

As ive said, ignore it, dont believe it, whatever, it doesnt change the fact that it is happening.

 

Personally I think your scared.screwu

 

I love your statement of fact!   How the fuck do you know its happening? 

 

I'd be absolutely delighted if it was true.    But then I have a grasp of how much energy and time it would be required to even travel for "short distances"  in our galaxy, which IMO makes the likely hood of visitations extremely low.   

 

Oh but I dont know how advanced other beings might be do i?!  laughing

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there is another possible explanation (that sounds far more likely) for the shit astronauts see - G-force, stresses the body has not evolved to handle yet. have heard it posited that it activates the same areas of the brain that are firing in people having religious experiences. haha, please tell me that FACT IS wasn't serious

yawnyawnyawnyawn my my my.munted

Sensible theory bring guffaws and belittlement....shock horror. 
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I have put the information out there and you know what I believe, whether you accept it or believe it is completely utterly irrelavent to me.
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Out of interest,  you're not one of them who believes that the moon is being used as kind of Travelodge for ET's do you?    I know one of them, and he is convnced that NASA have pixallated sign posts on the moon so we can't see them in the moonlanding photos.
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Out of interest,  you're not one of them who believes that the moon is being used as kind of Travelodge for ET's do you?    I know one of them, and he is convnced that NASA have pixallated sign posts on the moon so we can't see them in the moonlanding photos.

Are you one of the people that believe the moon is a chunk off the earth from some collision billions of years ago.....
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watch the fucking videos.screwu

Watching the 2nd one and I'm thinking that footage cant be real, then near the end it states 'animated simulation' laughing


http://cdn.smosh.com/sites/default/files/bloguploads/dontget-memes-1.jpg

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helipad
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Out of interest,  you're not one of them who believes that the moon is being used as kind of Travelodge for ET's do you?    I know one of them, and he is convnced that NASA have pixallated sign posts on the moon so we can't see them in the moonlanding photos.

Are you one of the people that believe the moon is a chunk off the earth from some collision billions of years ago.....

No.   As Brian Cox said it wasn't.
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Dr Walter Bishop
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Jesus.. looks like there's more people then me who need a fucking mars bar! laughing
3 months ago
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Oh and I take that as a yes. laughing
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Norris
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watch the fucking videos.screwu

Watching the 2nd one and I'm thinking that footage cant be real, then near the end it states 'animated simulation' laughing


http://www.godlikeproductions.com/sm/custom/81abac9641.jpg


yawnyawnyawnyawn Well fuck me, I have to admit that I didnt watch that video till the end, I just remember watching a video with that guy before and was the first I found so posted it.laughing

 

Fair play to that one, Ill be more careful with the videos I post in future.laughing

 

Doesnt change the fact that UFO's are disabling nukes though.thumbsup

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Norris
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Oh and I take that as a yes. laughing


No, I believe that something is going on on the moon, but I dont know what.

 

Probably nazis.thumbsuplaughing

 

Or little scuttling bugs that pretend to be rocks.


Post edited by owner 21/02/2012 18:21:40
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Norris
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Out of interest,  you're not one of them who believes that the moon is being used as kind of Travelodge for ET's do you?    I know one of them, and he is convnced that NASA have pixallated sign posts on the moon so we can't see them in the moonlanding photos.

Are you one of the people that believe the moon is a chunk off the earth from some collision billions of years ago.....

No.   As Brian Cox said it wasn't.

What! he said it was!!yawn
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Gaz Gibson
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watch the fucking videos.screwu

Watching the 2nd one and I'm thinking that footage cant be real, then near the end it states 'animated simulation' laughing


http://www.godlikeproductions.com/sm/custom/81abac9641.jpg


yawnyawnyawnyawn Well fuck me, I have to admit that I didnt watch that video till the end, I just remember watching a video with that guy before and was the first I found so posted it.laughing

 

Fair play to that one, Ill be more careful with the videos I post in future.laughing

 

Doesnt change the fact that UFO's are disabling nukes though.thumbsup


laughing
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The only winning move is not to play.
3 months ago
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Wouldn't you prefer a nice game of chess?
3 months ago
Ben F
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This thread is gone way off topic as I thought it would,

 

Its turning into more of a conspiracy thread.

3 months ago
Ben F
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Oh and I take that as a yes. laughing


No, I believe that something is going on on the moon, but I dont know what.

 

Probably nazis.thumbsuplaughing

 

Or little scuttling bugs that pretend to be rocks.

The Clangers?
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This thread is gone way off topic as I thought it would,

 

Its turning into more of a conspiracy thread.

that's part and parcel i'm afraid laughing
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Daz
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Iran isnt a worry anymore, SkyNews have got new breaking news tonight. The Brit Award winners, forget WW3, its all about One Direction and Bruno Mars!
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its their oil in their land. They can sell it to/ not sell it to whoever the fuck they want surely? As for the nuclear weapons part I have no idea.
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Delerious
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Iran isnt a worry anymore, SkyNews have got new breaking news tonight. The Brit Award winners, forget WW3, its all about One Direction and Bruno Mars!

Nah its all about chelsea losing to napoli! laughing
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BEARDYWEIRDY
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The oil isn't an issue. We hardly buy any oil from Iran anyway. As of july this year we were going to stop using them fullstop so Iran pulling the plug early makes no difference. Last year Iran only supplied 3% of the oil used in France. 
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Dolewaller
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And shit, we aren't talking about aliens are we again? Those fucking aliens, getting involved in everything these days... Abductions, shooting down missiles, killing Whitney Houston, organising Dubstep events, whatever next?
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Ben F
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The oil isn't an issue. We hardly buy any oil from Iran anyway. As of july this year we were going to stop using them fullstop so Iran pulling the plug early makes no difference. Last year Iran only supplied 3% of the oil used in France. 

Well 20% of Irans oil goes to europe, Greece being one of the major purchasers. the US have asked N Korea and Japan who are Irans major oil purchasers, Most of the oil Iran supplies goes to Asia and if that is weakened by restrictions then it does make a huge difference.
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The oil isn't an issue. We hardly buy any oil from Iran anyway. As of july this year we were going to stop using them fullstop so Iran pulling the plug early makes no difference. Last year Iran only supplied 3% of the oil used in France. 

Well 20% of Irans oil goes to europe, Greece being one of the major purchasers. the US have asked N Korea and Japan who are Irans major oil purchasers, Most of the oil Iran supplies goes to Asia and if that is weakened by restrictions then it does make a huge difference.

I dont know about Europe but the UK supplies only 1% comes from Iran so it won't make a diiferance. Greece are completely fucked anyway oil or no oil!
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Ben F
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The oil isn't an issue. We hardly buy any oil from Iran anyway. As of july this year we were going to stop using them fullstop so Iran pulling the plug early makes no difference. Last year Iran only supplied 3% of the oil used in France. 

Well 20% of Irans oil goes to europe, Greece being one of the major purchasers. the US have asked N Korea and Japan who are Irans major oil purchasers, Most of the oil Iran supplies goes to Asia and if that is weakened by restrictions then it does make a huge difference.

I dont know about Europe but the UK supplies only 1% comes from Iran so it won't make a diiferance. Greece are completely fucked anyway oil or no oil!


Yes UK wont make any difference but im talking about the EU oil embargo in July of this year, Greece is accountable for 33% its oil comes from Iran, Italy and Spain 10% of theirs comes from Iran, the rest of Europe 5% and less, with Aisa weakening supplies, accountable for 40% of theirs from Iran, it does make a difference, it would be way over 60% -70% of Irans oil exports.

 

Saudi's have stood up to the plate for supply of oil to Aisia and EU with threats from Iran.


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WONGA!
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The fact is guys, whether you believe in them or not, UFO's have been disabling our Nuclear Warheads. There are countless reports by military personel that have witnessed UFO's turning up and then the military literally losing control of the warheads. Google 'ET's disabling Nuclear Warheads' and you will find plenty of information. This isnt bullshit or woo woo, this is real. If you do your research, you would surely realise that for the advancement of the human race, NUCLEAR WAR IS NO LONGER ALLOWED TO HAPPEN ON EARTH. Call me mad or doolally, I really dont care, the fact is no country will be allowed to launch Nukes against another country.

 

What Loaded Dice is saying is the truth, it has been planned for a long time, however they never thought ET's would intervene, well they have.

 

Here is just one video out of thousands about the subject. You can dismiss it all you want, it doesnt change the fact that it is happening and it is real, people need to get their heads out of the sand and realise exactly whats going on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjViIruHoMY

munted

Jesus uhoh
3 months ago
Timmeh
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He was probably an alien as well
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Wouldn't you prefer a nice game of chess?

 

Brilliant movie biggrin
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NoMiS ChaV
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And shit, we aren't talking about aliens are we again? Those fucking aliens, getting involved in everything these days... Abductions, shooting down missiles, killing Whitney Houston, organising Dubstep events, whatever next?
I know, dirty bastards, coming down here, shagging all our women, with thier 3 knobs.
3 months ago
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Out of interest,  you're not one of them who believes that the moon is being used as kind of Travelodge for ET's do you?    I know one of them, and he is convnced that NASA have pixallated sign posts on the moon so we can't see them in the moonlanding photos.

Are you one of the people that believe the moon is a chunk off the earth from some collision billions of years ago.....
this just reminded me of these posts:

http://christwire.org/2012/02/american-hero-astronaut-buzz-aldrin-punches-preacher-in-the-face/

he opens a can of whup-ass laughinglaughinglaughing
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to get this back on track:


Iran Welcomes Back IAEA to Dispel Nuclear Weapons Allegations

Feb 20th, 2012 | By | Category: Featured Articles, War and Terrorism | Print Print

The Iranian Government have once again welcomed the IAEA in to the country to discuss their nuclear energy program, and to dispel as of yet unfounded allegations from the West and Israel that they are pursing a nuclear weapon.

This second supplemental discussion was agreed during a meeting earlier in the month, which was described as “a good trip” by IAEA deputy director general Herman Nackaerts [1].

“The IAEA would not be scheduling another trip unless they had an expectation of progress,” says Mark Fitzpatrick, director of the International Institute for Strategic Studies.

All previous IAEA reports have confirmed that Iran is not producing Uranium at anywhere near the level needed for a nuclear weapon. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad expressly told CBC News in 2010 that: “The nuclear bomb is a fire against humanity rather than weapon for defense…Its possession is disgusting and shameful…even more shameful is the threat to use such weapons.”

Despite this, politicized pressure has forced the IAEA to continually address so called “intelligence” that is clearly propaganda concocted by the West and Israel (who ironically have never cooperated over their own nuclear weapons).

The 2011 IAEA report, which was the first to really demonize Iran (although still concluded that it was not enriching weaponized Uranium) suggested Iran had shown intent to pursue nuclear weapons up until 2003 [2]. Ignoring the fact that Ahmadinejad wasn’t president during that time period, the source for this information was not evidence obtained independently by inspectors, but a dubious laptop obtained by the CIA containing supposed incriminating documents that were…wait for it…written in English, with nonsensical graphs produced in Microsoft Powerpoint [3]. The laptop was given to the CIA by the People’s Mujahedin of Iran, an opposition group which now has close ties to the CIA and Mossad [4].

The reason this “evidence” didn’t come out until the 2011 report, was because the CIA refused the IAEA access to it. Probably because they had yet to find a way to window dress it [5].

Although the mainstream media ran with headlines claiming Iran must be building nuclear weapons because inspectors obtained satellite pictures of a large steel container for carrying out tests with high explosives that could be used in nuclear weapons, the report comes to no such conclusion. The key word is could. The facility could just as easily be used for non-nuclear tests…without any other evidence the claim is useless. Are we to believe the US and Israel don’t have explosive testing facilities? Not only for weapons development but for protection?

The evil Krytron switches allegedly used for nuclear devices, also happen to be used in many industrial applications including photocopier machines! [6]

At this point it would be worth remembering the “sexed-up” September dossier, a piece of propaganda about Iraq’s nonexistent WMDS, and used to justify the Iraq war.

The West and Israel have no credibility and more importantly no evidence, yet the IAEA go in yet again, allowing the mainstream media to spin the headlines and continue the agenda.



from:

http://wideshut.co.uk/iran-welcomes-back-iaea-to-dispel-nuclear-weapons-allegations/



food for thought idea
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to get this back on track:


Iran Welcomes Back IKEA to Dispel Nuclear Weapons Allegations

Feb 20th, 2012 | By | Category: Featured Articles, War and Terrorism | Print Print

The Iranian Government have once again welcomed the IKEA in to the country to discuss their nuclear energy program, and to dispel as of yet unfounded allegations from the West and Israel that they are pursing a nuclear weapon.

This second supplemental discussion was agreed during a meeting earlier in the month, which was described as “a good trip” by IKEA deputy director general Herman Nackaerts [1].

“The IKEA would not be scheduling another trip unless they had an expectation of progress,” says Mark Fitzpatrick, director of the International Institute for Strategic Studies.

All previous IKEA reports have confirmed that Iran is not producing Uranium at anywhere near the level needed for a nuclear weapon. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad expressly told CBC News in 2010 that: “The nuclear bomb is a fire against humanity rather than weapon for defense…Its possession is disgusting and shameful…even more shameful is the threat to use such weapons.”

Despite this, politicized pressure has forced the IKEA to continually address so called “intelligence” that is clearly propaganda concocted by the West and Israel (who ironically have never cooperated over their own nuclear weapons).

The 2011 IKEA report, which was the first to really demonize Iran (although still concluded that it was not enriching weaponized Uranium) suggested Iran had shown intent to pursue nuclear weapons up until 2003 [2]. Ignoring the fact that Ahmadinejad wasn’t president during that time period, the source for this information was not evidence obtained independently by inspectors, but a dubious laptop obtained by the MFI  containing supposed incriminating documents that were…wait for it…written in English, with nonsensical graphs produced in Microsoft Powerpoint [3]. The laptop was given to the MFI by the People’s Mujahedin of Iran, an opposition group which now has close ties to the CIA and Mossad [4].

The reason this “evidence” didn’t come out until the 2011 report, was because the MFI refused the IKEA access to it. Probably because they had yet to find a way to window dress it [5].

Although the mainstream media ran with headlines claiming Iran must be building nuclear weapons because inspectors obtained satellite pictures of a large steel container for carrying out tests with high explosives that could be used in nuclear weapons, the report comes to no such conclusion. The key word is could. The facility could just as easily be used for non-nuclear tests…without any other evidence the claim is useless. Are we to believe the US and Israel don’t have explosive testing facilities? Not only for weapons development but for protection?

The evil Krypton switches allegedly used for nuclear devices, also happen to be used in many industrial applications including photocopier machines! [6]

At this point it would be worth remembering the “sexed-up” September dossier, a piece of propaganda about Iraq’s nonexistent WOMADS, and used to justify the Iraq war.

The West and Israel have no credibility and more importantly no evidence, yet the IKEA go in yet again, allowing the mainstream media to spin the headlines and continue the agenda.



from:

http://wideshut.co.uk/iran-welcomes-back-iaea-to-dispel-nuclear-weapons-allegations/



food for thought idea

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LoadedDice
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Iran Welcomes Back IKEA to Dispel Nuclear Weapons Allegations


which they have done numerous times, and never has anything been found, some of you may suggest that hiding uranium enrichment plants is evidence, but that's because you know nothing about nuclear power and what is actually takes to have weapons grade uranium - the weak wimpy younger sister of plutonium, which is magnitudes more powerful and the one used by Americans in WWII.

people are also forgetting that these sanctions i.e, resolution 1929 are based on fraudulent evidence, that whole thing about the laptop containing engineering plans for a war head, (remember this war head was small, so it MAY be used to carry a nuclear payload as anything else would be ineffective) the INITIAL and one and only OFFICIAL reason for Americas pre-emptive war, is a FUCKING JOKE, the plans are KNOWN to be for a Korean war head which was decommissioned in 1990. the source of the lap top is also unknown, suggesting planted "evidence". if Israel did indeed plant the evidence they should at least have had a small team of engineers try to design a new NUCLEAR war head to make it more plausible. This is beyond dispute, and purporting to the contrary is PROPAGANDA.

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LOL - you have spotted the edit there? laugh
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good to be steering back on topic. i really hope this doesn't develop into another round of give up your rights and cheer for it
3 months ago
LoadedDice
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yeah lol, and norris stay on topic mate,

ny times story on the laptop (2005):
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/13/international/middleeast/13nukes.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print

Iran’s Ballistic Missile Capabilities: A net assessment
http://www.iiss.org/publications/strategic-dossiers/irans-ballistic-missile-capabilities/?locale=en
the above is a cold factual book that you will have to buy, i do not believe a lifted copy exists on the net, not one i can find anyways,

just regarding wideshut.co.uk
although their intent is probably good, i consider their writing to be very suggestive and always incomplete, and often just plain wrong
their sources are weak at best and many paragraphs are blatantly lifted from similarly collated works.
i find this to be on par with propaganda and will do little to serve the quest for truth.
there are better sources, keep looking
3 months ago
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oh yeah, couldn't agree more. wide shut is pretty much the polar opposite to right wing propaganda rags like the Daily Mail. i shared the link because it's relevent to the thread and because it had been passed to me via facebook by and old mate who lives breathes and shits conspiracy theory and anything related. posted mainly because it's just a distilation of main points and not overly wordy (hence less likely to be ignored when scanning throught the thread) smile
3 months ago
Ben F
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LOL - you have spotted the edit there? laugh

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Ben F
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Having read that text, you have got to ask yourself how much of it is actaully true facts? You cannot rule out the possibility that the enrichment of uranium is not happening and the IAEA is not producing inaccurate reports. Im not ruling out the possibility that its a propaganda tool used by Israel and the West either, it makes for an interesting discussion.

If they are already producing uranium at a certain level for energy use? whats the point in producing energy when they are sitting on an oil field that can produce energy for the entire world for the next 90 years.

I believe that they are capable of producing high levels of uranium for atomic weapons under the not so very close eye of the IAEA, concealable yes and not to be ruled out.
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Having read that text, you have got to ask yourself how much of it is actaully true facts? You cannot rule out the possibility that the enrichment of uranium is not happening and the IAEA is not producing inaccurate reports. Im not ruling out the possibility that its a propaganda tool used by Israel and the West either, it makes for an interesting discussion.

If they are already producing uranium at a certain level for energy use? whats the point in producing energy when they are sitting on an oil field that can produce energy for the entire world for the next 90 years.

I believe that they are capable of producing high levels of uranium for atomic weapons under the not so very close eye of the IAEA, concealable yes and not to be ruled out.


that's pretty much what i feel myself. i certainly don't trust them to be left entirely to their own devices - and if what is covered in the article is true, i can't see any reason for Iran to block close scrutiny (by any regulatory/inspection bodies, not just the IAEA) of operation/activity. it's possibly a big dent to national pride but frankly who cares about that when it's such an explosive (groan! uhohlaughingGTFO! gotogoto) issue.
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