protein shakes

Maximuslce promax strawberry....


My old housemate was an athlete for team GB... they bought his gym memberships, hoodies and joggers with his name on and most importantly his protein ...

(the only one they would invest in, ....bearing in mind hes represented us in the olympics (and looks ripped ALL year round.... was maximuslce)...

It costs a little more but worth it (so far ive had the myprotein stuff, reflex whey, holland and barratt and a few others but this is my reccomendation).

In terms of bioavailability, it ranks over chick and eggs!

no fat, easily digested, all the essential BCAAs, very little sugar, tastes great, easy prep, lasts for ages

I wouldnt waste your time, he knows more about the people that have done this for 10+ years etc etc etc. Amazing.

Az doesnt stay on track, he also puts words in the mouths of those he is discussing with to suit his own tac, either that or he just has a gross misunderstanding of the language. And Gaz, youre a follower, nothing to say to you really so bore off. Az, you keep going on about the irrelevence of grafters yet also keep putting forward your own achievments which are just as irelevant as that which you scorn, I dont think you are clever enough to actually reply to anything I write without losing sight of what I have writen, you seem to keep going back to your own irelevant achievments. Most people that take these supslements take them to BUILD MUSCLE, thats how they are marketed and those people are the target market! Your army training etc is on the same irelevance level as a grafter in this topic in that respect, is it not? So lets keep confusing what YOU do with they want. All I have argued is that good hard work coupled with a correct diet of natural foodstuffs is better for you than a few hours in the gym and a big load of sups, in many levels: strenght, stamina, will power etc...

Any muscle in repetition will be strong in that repetition and the muscle mass from that repetition will buckle if taken to a scenario that reguires many angles etc of use(like a building site, foundry, farm and etc) thats why that kind of muscle becomes useless in those environments(and I have seen big men feeling shame about this), I have seen it happen just as was said earlier about the 5 year old like labourer, it is like that, take a man your own size and build that is pure gym muscle, he wont be able to do what you do just as he wont be able to do what I do even though I am smaller than that/you, he wont last the day let alone a month. That is why I call it vanity muscle, because it has no practical use outside of the feel good factor and its own settings. I also feel the sups are not good for people (single blokes that cant cook for themselves properly and looking for quick fixes on top of a bad diet)in the majority and can cause imbalances that will not be properly adressed because of lifestyle tendancies etc.So I feel that any recomendation of any supplement should not be given until a full diagnosis of exercise vs diet and more has been brought to the full understanding of those making the suggestion and that supplements should not be suggested or advised before a formed diet/exercise regime has first been put in place, none of which was done for the benifit of Jon before a myriad of sups were put forward. BTW: I respect the acknowledgement of my last post, I also respect those achievements, couldnt say so while we were arguing..haha. Respect.

And the cheese makers..

To a certain extent I agree with both arguements, I weight train 3 times a week, and I work on building sites all week long, so have experience of both, I think the key to the weightlifting arguement is one, remembering supplements are just that, to supplement an already good diet, and two, that weight training done effectively will need exercises that are organised to make sure you're balancing opposing muscles, for instance, just doing bench press may well build your chest muscles, but you need to equally hit your back muscles properly to balance things.... a lot of so called weight trainers do a few bicep curls and some bench presses, and assume that means cos they've done their t shirt muscles they're strong as fuck... it needs proper organising to hit all muscle groups properly, hence my earlier mention of compound lifts.

 

The building site arguement is also true though, I don't look particularly big, in fact I'm pretty skinny, but know some of my mates who are no doubt bigger and more "muscley" wouldn't keep up with me on site, although I would put that down to stamina and what is essentially practice, I've been doing it for years, course I can cope.

 

So, I guess to some up... I'm sitting on the fence

I once went bricklaying with a mate, i did'nt last two hours,

the next day i took a protein shake first and built two bungalows and terrace.

All you BEEFCAKE chumps = pwn3d!!!

Great comment, made me spit out my tea.